Maniphest T7739

pinentry/kleopatra: NVDA reads text multiple times
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• ikloecker
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• ikloecker
Jul 24 2025, 4:49 PM
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Description

Open notepad in Kleopatra and start encryption with symmetric passphase.
The pinentry window pops up and NVDA reads (according to speech log)

pinentry-qt5  dialog  Enter passphrase
Passphrase: edit protected blank
pinentry-qt5  dialog  Enter passphrase

where the second line isn't audible. Maybe it's canceled/skipped in favor of the third line.

INFO - __main__ (17:04:31.564) - MainThread (5092):
Starting NVDA version 2025.1.2 x86
[...]
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.376) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x05DB3E10>
name: pinentry-qt5
role: DIALOG
event: foreground
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinEntryDialog

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.376) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x0941AA90>
name: pinentry-qt5
role: DIALOG
event: focusEntered
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinEntryDialog

IO - speech.speech.speak (17:05:59.444) - MainThread (5092):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'pinentry-qt5', 'dialog', 'Enter passphrase\n', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.446) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x013F81F0>
name: Passphrase:
role: EDITABLETEXT
event: gainFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinLineEdit

DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (17:05:59.455) - MainThread (5092):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x013F81F0>

IO - speech.speech.speak (17:05:59.471) - MainThread (5092):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Passphrase:', 'edit', 'protected', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.476) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.Button object at 0x013F8E50>
name: pinentry.exe - 1 running window
role: BUTTON
event: stateChange
states: 16, 8192, 16777216
app module: AppModule(explorer, appName='explorer', processID=4632)
window class name: MSTaskListWClass
IAccessible accName: 'pinentry.exe - 1 running window'
IAccessibleChildID: 13

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.478) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x013F81F0>
name: Passphrase:
role: EDITABLETEXT
event: loseFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinLineEdit

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.479) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x095E3E50>
name: pinentry-qt5
role: DIALOG
event: gainFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinEntryDialog

IO - speech.speech.speak (17:05:59.561) - MainThread (5092):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'pinentry-qt5', 'dialog', 'Enter passphrase\n', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:05:59.564) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x013F8350>
name: pinentry-qt5
role: DIALOG
event: UIA_window_windowOpen
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinEntryDialog

We see

  • focusEntered for pinentry-qt5 dialog -> NVDA speaks pinentry-qt5 dialog Enter passphrase
  • gainFocus for Passphrase input field -> NVDA speaks Passphrase: edit protected blank
  • loseFocus for Passphrase input field
  • gainFocus for pinentry-qt5 dialog -> NVDA speaks pinentry-qt5 dialog Enter passphrase

This could point to a bug in Qt with wrong order of events, e.g. focus event for dialog is sent after focus event for input field.

Update: This also happens with Qt 6 and with many secondary windows in kleopatra (e.g. Create New OpenPGP Certificate, Error windows, etc.).

Revisions and Commits

rKLEOPATRA Kleopatra
rKLEOPATRA02d863b4d818 Use Qt to log properties of QAccessibleEvent
rKLEOPATRA9163e4ec4318 Optionally, log all accessibility events
rW Gpg4win
rW13940b3ead45 qtbase: Don't report active windows as having focus
rWe437b682f6d7 qtbase: Don't report active windows as having focus

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 OpenNoneT5824 Kleopatra: Full accessibility support
 Testing• ikloeckerT7739 pinentry/kleopatra: NVDA reads text multiple times

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• ikloecker triaged this task as Normal priority.Jul 24 2025, 4:49 PM
• ikloecker created this task.
• ikloecker updated the task description. (Show Details)Jul 24 2025, 5:25 PM
• ikloecker added a comment.Jul 24 2025, 5:31 PM

Other duplicate texts:

  • Enter some characters for Password and some other characters for Repeat and press Return.
  • Message box pops up to inform user that the two entered texts don't match. NVDA reads
does not match - try again  dialog
OK  button  Enter (not audible)
does not match - try again  dialog

Logs:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.847) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x013F4E10>
name: does not match - try again
role: STATICTEXT
event: nameChange
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: qt_msgbox_label
class name: QLabel

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.862) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x013F49B0>
name: OK
role: BUTTON
event: nameChange
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: QPushButton

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.862) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x0943E890>
name: Repeat:
role: EDITABLETEXT
event: loseFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: PinLineEdit

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.901) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x05D81810>
name: does not match - try again
role: DIALOG
event: focusEntered
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: QMessageBox

IO - speech.speech.speak (17:06:28.948) - MainThread (5092):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'does not match - try again', 'dialog', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.951) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x0800F170>
name: 
role: GROUPING
event: focusEntered
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: qt_msgbox_buttonbox
class name: QDialogButtonBox

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.955) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x09D03C50>
name: OK
role: BUTTON
event: gainFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: QPushButton

IO - speech.speech.speak (17:06:28.970) - MainThread (5092):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'OK', 'button', 'Enter', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.971) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x09D03C50>
name: OK
role: BUTTON
event: loseFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: QPushButton

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:28.972) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x0946C2D0>
name: does not match - try again
role: DIALOG
event: gainFocus
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: QMessageBox

IO - speech.speech.speak (17:06:29.004) - MainThread (5092):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'does not match - try again', 'dialog', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.evtTracker.GlobalPlugin.evtDebugLogging (17:06:29.007) - MainThread (5092):
EvtTracker: object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x013F4BF0>
name: does not match - try again
role: DIALOG
event: UIA_window_windowOpen
app module: AppModule(appModuleHandler, appName='pinentry', processID=7840)
window class name: Qt5159QWindowIcon
UIA Automation Id: 
class name: QMessageBox

We see a similar pattern as above

  • focusEntered for "does not match - try again" dialog -> NVDA speaks does not match - try again dialog
  • gainFocus for OK button -> NVDA speaks OK button Enter
  • loseFocus for OK button
  • gainFocus for "does not match - try again" dialog -> NVDA speaks does not match - try again dialog
• ikloecker claimed this task.Jul 24 2025, 5:39 PM
• ebo mentioned this in Unknown Object (Maniphest Task).Jul 25 2025, 11:52 AM
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• ikloecker mentioned this in Unknown Object (Maniphest Task).Jul 28 2025, 9:59 AM
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• ikloecker added a project: vsd34.Jul 29 2025, 9:38 AM

Ideally, this will be solved for VSD 3.4.

• ikloecker mentioned this in Unknown Object (Maniphest Task).Aug 4 2025, 9:37 AM
• ikloecker added a commit: rKLEOPATRA9163e4ec4318: Optionally, log all accessibility events.Aug 5 2025, 4:04 PM
• ikloecker added a commit: rKLEOPATRA02d863b4d818: Use Qt to log properties of QAccessibleEvent.Aug 8 2025, 4:35 PM
• ikloecker mentioned this in Unknown Object (Maniphest Task).Aug 11 2025, 9:22 AM
• ikloecker added a project: gpd5x.Aug 11 2025, 9:46 AM
• ikloecker renamed this task from pinentry-qt5: NVDA reads text multiple times to pinentry/kleopatra: NVDA reads text multiple times.Aug 11 2025, 9:50 AM
• ikloecker updated the task description. (Show Details)
• ikloecker moved this task from Backlog to WIP on the gpd5x board.Aug 11 2025, 11:16 AM

Logging all

• ikloecker added a commit: rWe437b682f6d7: qtbase: Don't report active windows as having focus.Aug 13 2025, 12:06 PM
• ikloecker changed the task status from Open to Testing.Aug 13 2025, 12:21 PM
• ikloecker moved this task from Backlog to WIP on the vsd34 board.

Fixed by adding a patch for Qt 6 (and a patch for Qt 5 in gpg4win-4-branch for VSD 3.4).

NVDA shouldn't read texts multiple times anymore when a new dialog/window is shown, e.g. error messages or the pinentry window.

• ikloecker mentioned this in T7776: Kleopatra: NVDA reads parent window of error messages.Aug 13 2025, 12:38 PM
• ikloecker added a commit: rW13940b3ead45: qtbase: Don't report active windows as having focus.Aug 21 2025, 10:07 AM
• ikloecker mentioned this in Unknown Object (Maniphest Task).Aug 25 2025, 9:59 AM
timegrid moved this task from WIP to Done on the gpd5x board.Sep 9 2025, 11:32 AM
timegrid added a subscriber: timegrid.

Looks good to me on gpg4win-5.0.0-beta369 @ win10 (no lines omitted or duplicate readings):

pinentry-qt  dialog  Enter passphrase
Passphrase:  edit  protected  blank
[...]
does not match - try again  dialog
OK  button  Enter
• ikloecker added a comment.Sep 16 2025, 4:22 PM

Upstream MR: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/676173

• ikloecker mentioned this in Unknown Object (Maniphest Task).Sep 22 2025, 9:55 AM
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• ebo edited projects, added gpd5x (gpd-5.0.0); removed gpd5x.Jan 13 2026, 12:48 PM
• werner mentioned this in T7998: Release GnuPG 2.5.19.Fri, Apr 24, 1:21 PM